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Tuesday, July 15, 2008

Sola Scriptura

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The concept of Sola Scriptura, or that Christianity is governed by scripture alone, is so foreign to me because I can see it no other way.  It seems so apparent that I have given it no previous thought.  In response to a disagreement that Primusfan and I had, I have spent a bit of time on the subject.

This blog catalogs some of the research I have done in support of my position:

Colossians 2

6 So then, just as you received Christ Jesus as Lord, continue to live in him, 7 rooted and built up in him, strengthened in the faith as you were taught, and overflowing with thankfulness.

 8 See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ.

 9 For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form, 10 and you have been given fullness in Christ, who is the head over every power and authority. 11 In him you were also circumcised, in the putting off of the sinful nature, not with a circumcision done by the hands of men but with the circumcision done by Christ, 12 having been buried with him in baptism and raised with him through your faith in the power of God, who raised him from the dead.

 13 When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, 14 having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it to the cross. 15 And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross. 16 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. 17 These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ. 18 Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you for the prize. Such a person goes into great detail about what he has seen, and his unspiritual mind puffs him up with idle notions. 19 He has lost connection with the Head, from whom the whole body, supported and held together by its ligaments and sinews, grows as God causes it to grow.

 20 Since you died with Christ to the basic principles of this world, why, as though you still belonged to it, do you submit to its rules: 21 "Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!"? 22 These are all destined to perish with use, because they are based on human commands and teachings. 23 Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence.

To imply that the Bible, the Word of God, does not posses all authority and is only part of what is required of us by God is hypocritical and damaging to the religion on the whole.  I can not see how this conclusion could be reached without undermining and disqualifying all of the scriptures. 

Matthew 28

18 Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.”

Jesus/God possesses all authority in heaven and Earth.  His sovereignty is without question. 

John 1

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Now apply some simple logic.  If God has all authority and God is the Word, doesn’t the word have all authority? 

Now also consider the covenants and promises that were made by God:

Exodus 24

3 When Moses went and told the people all the LORD's words and laws, they responded with one voice, "Everything the LORD has said we will do." 4 Moses then wrote down everything the LORD had said

7 Then he took the Book of the Covenant and read it to the people. They responded, "We will do everything the LORD has said; we will obey."

12 The LORD said to Moses, "Come up to me on the mountain and stay here, and I will give you the tablets of stone, with the law and commands I have written for their instruction."

Exodus 34

10 Then the LORD said: "I am making a covenant with you. Before all your people I will do wonders never before done in any nation in all the world. The people you live among will see how awesome is the work that I, the LORD, will do for you. 11 Obey what I command you today.

27 Then the LORD said to Moses, "Write down these words, for in accordance with these words I have made a covenant with you and with Israel." 28 Moses was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights without eating bread or drinking water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant—the Ten Commandments.

Leviticus 18

4 You must obey my laws and be careful to follow my decrees. I am the LORD your God. 5 Keep my decrees and laws, for the man who obeys them will live by them. I am the LORD.

Leviticus 26

3 " 'If you follow my decrees and are careful to obey my commands, 4 I will send you rain in its season, and the ground will yield its crops and the trees of the field their fruit.

I Kings 3

13 Moreover, I will give you what you have not asked for—both riches and honor—so that in your lifetime you will have no equal among kings. 14 And if you walk in my ways and obey my statutes and commands as David your father did, I will give you a long life."

John 14

15 "If you love me, you will obey what I command.

21 Whoever has my commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves me. He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love him and show myself to him."

23 Jesus replied, "If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. 24 He who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me.

This is very clear that God’s covenant and law and commands are all within scriptures and says nothing of any other traditions. 

In fact, the only times that tradition is mentioned within the Bible it is with scorn. 

Matthew 15

1Then some Pharisees and teachers of the law came to Jesus from Jerusalem and asked, 2"Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? They don't wash their hands before they eat!"

 3Jesus replied, "And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition? 4For God said, 'Honor your father and mother' and 'Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.'5But you say that if a man says to his father or mother, 'Whatever help you might otherwise have received from me is a gift devoted to God,' 6he is not to 'honor his father' with it. Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition. 7You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you:
 8" 'These people honor me with their lips,
      but their hearts are far from me.
 9They worship me in vain;
      their teachings are but rules taught by men.'"




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WaxyCrustacean wrote on Jul 15th, 2008 5:27pm

This assumes that absolutely everything the Christ taught is found within scripture. A statement that is simply not true.


denizenza wrote on Jul 15th, 2008 5:47pm

Why must it assume that? The only assumption is that everything God requires or wants us to know is recorded there. Also, how could you possibly know that everything Jesus taught isn't in the Bible?


primusfan wrote on Jul 16th, 2008 12:33am

response in my blog. sorry about where i screwed up in quotes. for some reason my blog won't allow me to edit and change it.


GuitarManiac09 wrote on Jul 31st, 2008 6:27pm

denizenz wrote on Jul 15th, 2008 at 12:47pm :

Also, how could you possibly know that everything Jesus taught isn't in the Bible?

There are quite a few books they've found that were denied into the canon of scripture, whether they were just less popular or had slightly selfish influences (as in hints of gnosticism or Jewish influences).
The Gospel of Thomas is in my opinion the most interesting, and it answers your question. It's supposed author is Didymus Judas Thomas (Jesus' twin brother), and it's a collection of quotes of Jesus' teachings. It's really interesting, and some of the stuff contained in there isn't in the Bible. Since they think it comes from Jesus' brother, the gospel is seen as reputable. There are quite a few books that didn't make it into the bible, I can give you a list if you like.


primusfan wrote on Aug 1st, 2008 6:37am

jesus' twin brother? ... that's so heretical i don't know where to start ...


denizenza wrote on Aug 1st, 2008 3:05pm

GuitarManiac09 wrote on Jul 31st, 2008 at 1:27pm :


I know them, I don't need a list. Do you happen to know why they weren't added? Mostly because they were incomplete or of unverifiable source. In the case of the many times do you need to read the same story? I find four to be a little daunting myself.

A biological twin of Jesus would be quite impossible :haha:


primusfan wrote on Aug 3rd, 2008 6:30am

I know them, I don't need a list. Do you happen to know why they weren't added? Mostly because they were incomplete or of unverifiable source. In the case of the many times do you need to read the same story? I find four to be a little daunting myself.

not to mention that some are just downright heretical. the gnostic gospels were written in order to subvert true christian theology. christianity was a big urban movement. a lot of people tried to "cash in" on its success by putting their own views into it and making it into what they wanted it to be.

thankfully we had the church to stamp them out and reaffirm the one truth.


dizzle! wrote on Jul 6th, 2009 6:30pm

Didn't Jesus Throw the money changers out of the temple because they had corrupted God's house?

John 2:15 So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables.


Revelation 22:18-19 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.


wolfofmibu wrote on Dec 13th, 2009 2:38pm

awesome work ^^ Jesus is the authority.

Perhaps you can do a review on: History of God by Karen Armstrong..


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