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Monday, September 21, 2009

Extremism

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There seems to be a general feeling among people that political extremism is a bad thing. People shun extremists and think that the moderate view is the correct one. They try to strike a deal between various sides and pick one that appears to be in the middle and is equally appealing and distasteful to both sides. 

This is not necessarily right. There are number of positions today which we take for granted that originated as extremist ones. Giving women the vote, giving most men the vote, treating black people as people, legalising same-sex relationships/marriage (legalising same-sex marriage was scarcely heard of just a couple of generations ago).

A few suggestions that seem extreme today that could easily be accepted ideas in 50 years time:

Complete nuclear disarmament. Few people think that we should get rid of all our nukes and advocate the keeping of just a small number as insurance. Most people agree that we don't need the huge numbers we do and pick a reduction in their numbers as a moderate view.

Legalising polygamy. There is a tentative acceptance of open relationships/marriages in some places. Permitting people more than one legal spouse is an extreme viewpoint that there is no rational reason to prevent.

Drug legalisation. Again, this appears to be an extreme point of view but in my other blog: 

http://profile.ultimate-guitar.com/Meths/blog/3835 /

/shameless self-promotion of own blog in another blog


I show that it's actually a good idea that should be adopted.

People shun extremism because... well, it's extreme. Outliers are rare in most human characteristics and people are unsure of how to deal with them. However in politics, things change and they often change quite significantly. Things that seem extreme today will not seem extreme tomorrow. Dismissing an idea because it is "extreme" is foolish; a moderate idea is not necessarily better than an extreme one just because more people hold it. Extremism is relative (implied by above paragraph).

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dann_blood wrote on Sep 21st, 2009 7:56am

Depends on the reason for the extremism. For example, the republicans current stance is hardly a desirable one.

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meh! wrote on Sep 26th, 2009 2:16pm

Moderateness is the death of progress. What moderateness attempts to mean today is 'non-ideological'. The fallacious idea propagated that there is no longer (the terrible extremes of) ideology but only solutions. That is to say, we are implicitly told there is only one ideology - the free market ideology - the status quo.

It's got to be on of the biggest threats to any sort of leftist movement. This idea that we've 'basically got it right' we just need to tweak things a little.

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Carswell98 wrote on Oct 8th, 2009 9:31pm

would you consider those things extreme views? I wouldn't, there are strong indications that full legalization of drugs isn't nearly as damaging as conservative people would like to believe

Nuclear disarmament as well, it's an extreme goal, but not an extreme view, I can't see anybody actually liking that we live in a world with these weapons hovering over every conflict.

but I do stand behind your statements, without some group or person to stand by their beliefs 100%, the concessions made won't be enough, because the compromise isn't the goal, not partial disarmament, full disarmament.

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Methsa wrote on Oct 9th, 2009 2:30pm

They're extreme insofar as few people seriously advocate them and they don't really play a part in mainstream politics. With the exception of Ron Paul, I don't know of any politicians from major parties who are sensible enough to question the War on Drugs.

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AusMetal33 wrote on Oct 16th, 2009 10:00am

your purely considering the elements of extremist politics which are beneficial

no rights for homosexuals, no freedom of speech, institutonal racism
all of the above are extremist political views, with many more in their wake equally damaging

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Methsa wrote on Oct 16th, 2009 11:33am

But none are bad BECAUSE they are extreme. People dismiss things purely because they are fringe viewpoints and not on the merit of the ideas.

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