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Sunday, May 15, 2011


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Hard truths. Impossible truths. Biblical truths.
The hardest thing about being a christian (to me) is facing the truth. Some of the things in life I am genuinly scared of. Because being a christian i have to accept, acknowledge and finally DO SOMETHING about these truths.
And some of them seem genuinly unfair.
(which is why it is so hard to see God as righteous and justice-enforcing... it takes perserverence and faith)
These truths can be personal or selfless.
Truths like accepting that most of my friends and people I love will eventually die... but for the moment are also spiritually dead. That because they do not know the abounding love of God... they are not saved by it.
Truths like knowing that the bible says that God planned all that. Jesus continuously says: 'those of you with ears, let them hear.' Because theres some people out there whose hearts have been hardened by God. There are people who find even the slightest utterence of Christianity offensive, 'Bible Bashing' and shoving stuff down peoples throats. (Note: I admit this happens way too often. But thats another post) God tells us that there are people who will never have a chance. And to me that doesnt seem fair.
Truths that something I love or think is cool is actually wrong. Things that I know are wrong that I don't want to give up... 'Oh God, I have given you every other part of my life...every other sin. Just let me have this thing, its only small...' And God despises that thing....
Truths like 'those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted'. It just seems unfair when people knowingly abuse God and still are successful in life, even moreso that me (not to much of a problem in my case)
Truths like 'God will make the sun rise on both good and bad men'. Why... Father...
Truths like women are inferior to men (still not sure). Like Sin is in our nature and God created us this way.
And probobly above all, the truth: 'there is no greater or lesser sin'. God sees all sin on the same level.... a lie is as bad as murder. As long as you have sinned, you have no place with God.
Its like if you have a can of coke... you would gladly take it for free. But what If you saw me put something gross in there... lets say a drop of urine. Just one drop. In a whole can. (Most of us) would not drink it. Its just... gross.
Or for a more mature example: Sin is like a small square of paper. To us some are thicker than others. When we sin, each piece is stacked on top of eachother. If we tell a couple of hundred lies that is the thickness equivalent to adultery etc. We compare our stacks with others: ie. Not as tall as Hitler, but not as small as Mother Teresa... surely God thinks thats okay, its not as if ive done blah.
But God sees things differently. He is holy and righteous... and He looks down from above. And all he sees is whether of not you have a piece of paper. If not, He can see the ground and you are righteous. But even the thinnest piece of paper is visible to God. And he detests it.
Its all the same. Its so hard to get out of the mindset of 'greater or lesser sins'.
And yet a harder truth that sustains all: through all of this, all our impurities and doubts and secret pleasures and pieces of paper and greed and lust and pride...
God, the creator of THE universe and all beyond that, the being who breathed out stars bigger than we can comprehend, who merely spoke and every fibre obeyed his will, who is infinite and ever lasting and awesome... He knows all that I am going through, and most of all, He loves me still. Despite.
And its sometimes hard to grasp how amazing Jesus' acts were... He was God in the flesh. So when his back was whipped and torn and he was mocked and people gambled for his stuff infront of him... when each muscle was sliced and lay open and quivering, when a crown of 2 inch thorns was forced down over his eyes, when a purple robe was thrown across his bleeding shoulders only to have been torn off again... when the Roman soldiers spat on his face! This is GOD IN THE FLESH! His very being  sustains all that is! He controls, sustains and created the very pores and muscles and sinews that were needed for each man to work up saliva in his mouth, the physics that allowed them to spit it onto his face... he was god in the flesh. And he loved us so much... that in that moment not only did he suffer that excrusiating pain and humiliation, he destroyed a PERFECT relationship with his Father.
His love, above all, I cannot comprehend. More than the hard truths... it is just frankly awesome.
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hurricaneherman wrote on May 15th, 2011 8:46pm

I noticed that a lot of what you said were not truths, but fears.
The people who are successful yet and abuse God, they are successful because they seize their lives, and believe in themselves. They don't put themselves down. It is good to be humble, but also to believe that you can have o good life on this earth.
Women are not inferior to men, but they do have a different rule to play in their lives than men, and also God did not create us with a sinful nature, he created us with an ability to choose, so that we could choose him.
All sins are the same, but that makes it so much easier to be saved. That means there is one answer to every sin, and that is Jesus.

There's so much to comment on but I didn't. It just sounds like the way you talk,
it doesn't make me think of God as good. Since Jesus sacrificed hid life, we have
grace, and mercy, to help us through.


E_Paradoxa wrote on May 15th, 2011 10:07pm

Maybe the reason I fear them is because ive been told they are the truth. Or because I have to accept they are the truth.

I recon people are successful not only because of that, but because God allows them to be. If he ddn't, they would fail. But that is his awesome mercy at work. He has given ALL of us a second chance... and thats a great thing

I think God did create us with a sinful nature. For what other reason would we have it? I as a christian love sin: otherwise I would not commit it. But where does that love come from? I am open to argument, but I cannot see otherwise...

I agree with the equal sin thing. Ive never heard anyone say it like that.... its wonderful.

I understand. That was me venting about the things in life that I don't quite understand... and I do perservere through his grace and mercy. Above all, Gods love. I guess it probobly wasnt the best thing to post on though... thanks for the check up.


hurricaneherman wrote on May 16th, 2011 6:11am

I think that God created us with a choice, other wise why would he create us. He would have had no satisfaction, or pleasure with us, because we would do whatever
he wanted without even knowing what we where doing.
I don't blame Adam for the sin we have now, but because he and Eve gave in to
Satan's deceit we now live in a world full of sin.
When sin comes, that means you let the devil's thoughts into your mind, but don't
get discouraged, for as you said, He gave us a second chance.
This is the way I think of it.

Your welcome for checking up, and I hope I don't a fend you with anything I say.


E_Paradoxa wrote on May 16th, 2011 7:01am

"It is a poor sermon that gives no offense: that neither makes the hearer displeased with himself or with the preacher" - George Whitefield. I am always up for it either way.

God did create us with a choice. But our nature is to sin. Our choice is whether or not to sin, but without effort we would sin. Hence nature. If in fact God did create us for his satisfaction and pleasure (which is plausible but for me I doubt he needed us for that, and so more likely he created us, faults and all, for his glory) how is knowing what we are doing adding to that? Surely having a choice would only make it worse in terms of the people who choose SIN over GOD?

Rather I see sin as something that has come after the Fall, and from that is absolutely natural. As christians, we should choose not to sin. Sometimes we don't... its not always a conscious thing. But your right. The main thing is that we have a choice. What will we choose?


hurricaneherman wrote on May 16th, 2011 9:28pm

God created us with a choice, because he wants us to choose to love him, like parents want their children to choose to love them. If you had children, and you forced them to pretend to love you, you would find no pleasure from that.
But if your child came up to you, gave you a hug, and said "I love you", wouldn't you find pleasure in that?
He created the angels to give him glory, he created us to love him. Therefore he had to create us with a choice, knowing the risk of losing us.


E_Paradoxa wrote on May 16th, 2011 9:59pm

I agree with the choose to love him thing.. but that doesnt mean we dont have a sinful nature. It means we choose not to follow that nature.

Which is why it is all the more special to God when we say we love him.

I beleive God made us mostly for his glory... in Genesis 6 it goes on about how God is displeased. If God created us for pleasure and then was dissapointed, doesnt this imply that God wasnt all knowing, all powerful etc? That he was genuinly suprised when we all chose sin?


hurricaneherman wrote on May 17th, 2011 5:00am

Yes, we do now have a sinful nature that we either choose to let out, or keep it
locked up.

He did also create us to glorify him, but who glorifies him that doesn't love him?

God did know it had to come some time, and he knew when it would come, but he
was still shocked that we did it. Its like if you found out that you were going to lose
your arm tomorrow, but of course you would be shocked and upset when they
cut it off.


E_Paradoxa wrote on May 17th, 2011 5:15am

I don't think thats God. God is all powerful, infinite, all knowing...hes god.I figure if God found out he would lose an arm, and didn't want to lose an arm, he would do everything in his power to stop it. And he would succeed. He's God. To him, nothing is inevitable, and the only impossible thing is for him to lie, sin etc. Therefore God would have known he would lose an arm. He wasnt shocked. He's all knowing. And he had the ability to stop it if he pleased. He's all powerful. He's God.


hurricaneherman wrote on May 17th, 2011 5:44pm

Well, if he knew we were going to fall, and knew that all we where going to bring
him was pain(since he already has the angels to glorify him) Why would he have still
created us?
He knew that we would fall, but that doesn't mean he wanted it to happen. He still
created us, because he new there was still hope for every fallen man(and woman).


E_Paradoxa wrote on May 17th, 2011 10:03pm

He created us to glorify him. Where is the glory for someone who can control what is good? But the glory for someone who can control what is bad, concors what is bad, and even what is bad changes to good at the mere sound of his love in what he did through Jesus.... would that not glorify him? In the end, would not everyone bow down, even those who have chosen sin?

I honestly don't know for sure. But i beleive in a God who is, as before, infinite, all knowing, all powerful and abounding in love. If he new we would fall and didn't want it to happen, he could stop it easily. Maybe he needed us to fall so that we could be rescued. I don't know. That goes into grace/discipline.


hurricaneherman wrote on May 18th, 2011 11:48pm

No one can ever know for sure the mystery's of God, but I have a feeling it is somewhere in between what each of us think.


E_Paradoxa wrote on May 19th, 2011 2:49am

One day we will know for sure... we will join him in his kingdom and things will make sense... Until then the awesome thing is that we can have faith through even the hardest things by the Holy Spirit...and no matter God's intention what he did through Christ matters way more.


hurricaneherman wrote on May 20th, 2011 12:26am

I want to live my life to the fullest on this life, but I also can't wait for the day
we're with Him.


E_Paradoxa wrote on May 20th, 2011 12:31am

Its just like what Paul was saying... he can't wait to be with God in Heaven, but he knows that God has purpose for him here, and so stayed until his time...

For me I understand that eternity with Him starts now. I definetly am looking forward to that day... but until then i want to make sure that as many people as possibly will be coming with me.


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